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Post by phyxius on Jul 27, 2006 8:15:41 GMT -5
@ben: u fail at understanding what i'm trying to say....
RBD/HDDVD = next standars, when they become standar they are not expensive...-.- (remember when dvd go out and cd was the top), of course..right now..a 25gb disc is expensive..lol
as jag said, all companies lose money on the console itself..why u think they make accesories..? >_>? if u haven't noticed..what sell a console is the games no the console itself....
and is not arrogant...if just the true....games make a console..u have the best games u own...
when ps2 came out...dreamcast was the competition
guess: dreamcast PWN technically the Ps2 but guess what?!! people prefer ps2 because of the games dreamcast lost the battles cuz the companies didn't trust on sega
@jag: that normal..lame titles....stupid movies..just 2.5 gb cuz high compresion...of course that fail...
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Post by TomTom on Jul 27, 2006 8:46:17 GMT -5
Titles will always make or brake a system (e.g. Game Cube). The only thing Nintendo has going for it is Smash Bros. series. Link is so dumbed down it isn't funny (where is the SNES Link). Sony announced that FF XIII is the last of the series. PS2 and Box had more revolutionary games than Nintendo will have in a decade. I really want the PS3 but I just might wait till the system establishes itself and the price comes down.
@ben you can't really be saying that Sony only recycles its games. I can't wait for my Wii to get Metroid 200, Smash Bros 3000, Mario World 15000, Mario Cart 500, or some game with that other plumber. YOU MUST NOT UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN GAMES MAKE MONEY DEVELOPERS THEN TRY TO MILK IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. It has nothing to do with the consule, except for the fact that it's supporting.
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Post by phyxius on Jul 27, 2006 12:15:44 GMT -5
Link is so dumbed down it isn't funny (where is the SNES Link). yeah, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past >any other Zelda and that kind of games made Snes kick the Sh¡t out of Sega
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Post by KillerSmo on Jul 27, 2006 18:07:13 GMT -5
Rip me apart, but the FF series is gay.
As long as a game system as SPORTS GAMES - that's all I care about. Screw Smash Brothers... it's all about sports
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Post by Guhosutsubenu on Jul 28, 2006 4:23:26 GMT -5
lol
my point on PS3 is that EVERYTHING about it is expensive the games, the accesssory's everything about it is massive expensive. so IF you buy the console. you need to spend SO much money on games and such, that is not funny annymore.
and sure all consoles have their good games. but now a days a good game (for example halo 2) takes about 1~3 days to finish. i dont wana spend 100 euro for a game i finish in aprox 1~3 days. its just to expensive.
then i prefere the cheaper games that last longer on a cheaper console. but that just my poinion, it has to be both fun and afordable.
@jeagar: i know all companys lose money on the console but PS3 maks EVERYTHING that has to do with PS3 expensive caus of that. (that was my point)
and i just wana say. 1 last thing
CUBE OWN ALL it is the best console, technicaly, only the cpu speed is turned down so the cube needs no cooling (if you destory the fan, cube just continue, no problem)
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Post by TomTom on Jul 28, 2006 8:42:19 GMT -5
Rip me apart, but the FF series is gay. As long as a game system as SPORTS GAMES - that's all I care about. Screw Smash Brothers... it's all about sports Dan get a Xbox. I've noticed Madden games will be more or less catering to the Xbox. FF series has gone down hill since FF8. @ben if you tone down the speed of the processor wtf is the point. E.g. Notebook processors don't even compare to desktop processors. Woot I have a 700 mhrz processor that can only run at 400 mhrz. Anyway it's all a matter of opinion. I don't think games will be put out on those stupid memory sticks. Since it still has the DVD and BRD avialible. That should keep game prices at the $50-60 range.
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Post by phyxius on Jul 28, 2006 9:12:41 GMT -5
lol and sure all consoles have their good games. but now a days a good game (for example halo 2) takes about 1~3 days to finish. i dont wana spend 100 euro for a game i finish in aprox 1~3 days. its just to expensive. lolwut...? i wanna see u beating halo 2 in 1 day....anyway, depend on the kind of game u are buying, of course..and action game is shorter than an RPG or adventure game...-.-" and i just wana say. 1 last thing CUBE OWN ALL it is the best console, technicaly, only the cpu speed is turned down so the cube needs no cooling (if you destory the fan, cube just continue, no problem) WHAT?...u are...crazy..nintendo have blind u.....u.."mario lover!" Xbox: Detailed specifications CPU: Micro PGA2 733 MHz Intel Mobile Celeron/Pentium III hybrid SIMD: SSE. Four single-precision floating-point numbers in one instruction. Unified Memory Subsystem: Total (shared) Memory: 64 MB DDR SDRAM running at 200 MHz, supplied by Hynix or Samsung depending on manufacture date and location Theoretical Memory Bandwidth: 6.4 GB/s Graphics Processor: 233 MHz custom chip developed by Microsoft and NVIDIA code named NV2A, the A setting it apart from the PC based NV20 and NV25 (A Geforcev3.5 of sorts, nVidia used a substantial amount of the Geforce 3 design, but added many of the new features to be found in its quick successor the Geforce 4). Ps2: CPU: 128 bit "Emotion Engine" clocked at 294 MHz, 10.5 million transistors System Memory: 32 MB Direct Rambus or RDRAM (note that some computers use this type of RAM) Memory bus Bandwidth: 3.2 GB per second Main processor: MIPS R5900 CPU core, 64 bit Graphics: "Graphics Synthesizer" clocked at 147 MHz Variable from 256x224 to 1280x1024 pixels 4 MB Embedded DRAM video memory DRAM Bus bandwidth: 47.0GB per second DRAM Bus width: 2560-bit (composed of three independendent buses: 1024-bit write, 1024-bit read, 512-bit read/write) Pixel Configuration: RGB:Alpha:Z Buffer (24:8, 15:1 for RGB, 16, 24, or 32-bit Z buffer) G@y Cube: Processor: Name: "Gekko" <- lolwut?Producer: IBM Core Base: PowerPC 750CXe, 43-mm² die (modified PowerPC G3 750 RISC with about 50 new instructions) Manufacturing Process: 0.18 micrometre IBM copper-wire technology Clock Frequency: 485 MHz <- XD!!!!!!!hahahahahhaCPU Capacity: 1125 Dmips (Dhrystone 2.1) Internal Data Precision: 32-bit Integer 64-bit Floating-point, usable as 2x32-bit SIMD Graphics processing unit: Name: "Flipper" <- /swtProducer: ArtX/Nintendo (ArtX was acquired by ATi Technologies in 2000 and is now a part of ATi) Manufacturing Process: 0.18 micrometre NEC embedded DRAM process Clock Frequency: 162 MHz Embedded Frame Buffer: Approximately 2 megabytes in capacity <- XDDDDDDDD Sustainable latency of 6.2 nanoseconds RAM type is 1T-SRAM ---- anyway..this is getting long...and now u know why GC is cheaper than any other console...
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Post by Guhosutsubenu on Jul 28, 2006 12:18:34 GMT -5
i told you they lowerd the MHz
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Post by phyxius on Jul 28, 2006 21:28:41 GMT -5
and the 2 mb of video..XD¿?
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Post by Jaegar on Jul 29, 2006 13:30:43 GMT -5
LOL! XD I just had the most ironic realization that you've been saying that SNES Link>GC Link (and he is) and now you're obsessing about hardware specs. The capibilities are important, but not that important. It's all in how well they're used.
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Post by Guhosutsubenu on Jul 29, 2006 14:42:40 GMT -5
and the 2 mb of video..XD¿? i study electronics. if you overclock the MHz fo the cube, and input cooling. it owns all.... classmates did a complete report on it. but annyway. (this disscussion can go on for ever) but i think that sony is making its stuff TO expensive. and with this price its not fun for a normal gamer. (i mean i dont have a monney tree in my gardern....) and because xbox an nintendo, make it so much cheaper (meaning it is posible) a lot of ppl will chose xbox 360 or a nintendo wii. thats what i think.
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Post by phyxius on Jul 29, 2006 15:28:29 GMT -5
LOL! XD I just had the most ironic realization that you've been saying that SNES Link>GC Link (and he is) and now you're obsessing about hardware specs. The capibilities are important, but not that important. It's all in how well they're used. no..is not ironic...i'm just giving u an example of Console's war.... and i get into specs cuz ben said that GC is better than the other consoles..and that's wrong... anayway, to see if BEN AND ANY OTHER THAT READ HERE GET THE IDEA OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY....here's where the war of the consoles start: SNES VS. SEGA : Snes win thanks to the games over a really competitive Sega, and THAT ERA INCLUDE THE BEST ZELDA UNTIL THIS DAYS, (that zelda got remade for GBA too) PSX VS. N64 : PSX wins the best battle ever, thanks to the games again, even when Nintendo made a better console (they got good games like goldeneye or star fox..but w/e PSX got resident evil......., remakes of old games that made history, RPGs...) PS2 VS. DREAMCAST : again...sony get the win against a console better than ps2, and i don't have to tell you why...right? PS2 VS. XBOX: the never end battle, microsoft turned a pc into a console, PS2 is still alive, XBOX is still alive, we'll have a winner of this battle at the end of this era (maybe soon, maybe not, who knows...?) 360° VS. Wii VS. PS3 : next episode...360° hit first and take the lead, getting on market first...but of course, whit a lot of errors that until today they are still fixing (i have 1..and everytime i put a game and i see a red light instead of the green one..i wanna burn that sh!t), everybody want a Wii, cuz is cheaper, yeah WOOHO is Cheaper, but then i wanna see all the wii owners when they have to play 1231231231312312 versions of mario, or no1 have noticed that only games that make a good hit on Nintendo.... are the games that make the own nintendo? ;D (metroid, Mario, Zelda...etc..) And Ps3, well i defend teh ps3 cuz it have EVERYTHING that u may need in a console, and is made thinking about the future, microsoft already is releasing accesories for the 360 ° just to get close to the ps3 normal specs, so i still think that ps3 worth what sony say ben..understand this time please...-.-"
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Post by Jaegar on Aug 17, 2006 16:07:28 GMT -5
Hmmm, I got an idea. (goes and looks at game collection) Ok, out of the 29 GCN games that I own, 7 are overexposed Nintendo owned franchises. The 2 Metroid Prime games, LoZ:WW, Kirby's Air Ride, Pokemon Colosseum, SSBM, and Luigi's Mansion. Those are all good games (except Pokemon, I'm burnt out on that old formula XP) There are 11 other games That I'd recommend highly. That's just out of the games I own. There are plenty more games I'd love to play on the GCN. That may just be me though, I like weird games. (Cubivore rox and Custom Robo FTW!)
EDIT: BTW Phy, I see your point now. Now this post goes to anyone who says that Nintendo doesn't have enough non-franchise games.
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Post by Guhosutsubenu on Aug 18, 2006 3:05:04 GMT -5
Hmmm, I got an idea. (goes and looks at game collection) Ok, out of the 29 GCN games that I own, 7 are overexposed Nintendo owned franchises. The 2 Metroid Prime games, LoZ:WW, Kirby's Air Ride, Pokemon Colosseum, SSBM, and Luigi's Mansion. Those are all good games (except Pokemon, I'm burnt out on that old formula XP) There are 11 other games That I'd recommend highly. That's just out of the games I own. There are plenty more games I'd love to play on the GCN. That may just be me though, I like weird games. (Cubivore rox and Custom Robo FTW!) EDIT: BTW Phy, I see your point now. Now this post goes to anyone who says that Nintendo doesn't have enough non-franchise games. your right. some ppl say GC is only for lil kids. and that it has only stupid nintendo games well.. its not!
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Post by TomTom on Aug 18, 2006 9:54:48 GMT -5
Hmmm, I got an idea. (goes and looks at game collection) Ok, out of the 29 GCN games that I own, 7 are overexposed Nintendo owned franchises. The 2 Metroid Prime games, LoZ:WW, Kirby's Air Ride, Pokemon Colosseum, SSBM, and Luigi's Mansion. Those are all good games (except Pokemon, I'm burnt out on that old formula XP) There are 11 other games That I'd recommend highly. That's just out of the games I own. There are plenty more games I'd love to play on the GCN. That may just be me though, I like weird games. (Cubivore rox and Custom Robo FTW!) EDIT: BTW Phy, I see your point now. Now this post goes to anyone who says that Nintendo doesn't have enough non-franchise games. your right. some ppl say GC is only for lil kids. and that it has only stupid nintendo games well.. its not! I'm not saying the GC is a bad system I'm saying Nintendo is killing itself by not branching out to other games. Once Sony left Nintendo it was all over. Nintendo has seen it's peak era with the SNES, but will never reach that unless pretty dramatic changes occur. If the GC isn't a kiddy system then how come they aren't pushing for titles like GTA (I hate that game) and games with Mature content.
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